"Beth Shalom Radio"
running time: 58 min, 36 sec.
"Jew by birth, Jew in Spirit"
Host: Andrey Nekrasov
In the studio: Pastor Yuri Popov, guest speakers: Natalia
Gumennaya, Vita Rimskaya, Sasha Izbinsky, Andrew Lazarev and Elena
Natalia Gumennaya – "Jew in Spirit".
She explains why.
In the beginning she gives her short
All present in the studio are
Jews, some by birth, some in Spirit.
“How do we make our way in
this world, where the abundant offers of spiritual food are pressing
from all sides: “Try me! – I am the best!” It is amazing, but God
also offers Himself in the Holy Scriptures: “Oh, taste and see that
the Lord is good!” My path of understanding and knowledge was a long
winding path. I was attracted by diverse religions and movements,
but when I met evangelical Christians my heart was opened toward the
Lord. I believe in the
God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and the fact that Jesus Christ is
the Savior and Messiah for
Israel and the
entire world. This is my position of faith.
He died for redemption from our sins and the punishment of
the world was upon Him. None of the leaders or founders of religions
died for us, but Jesus alone died for us.
I am really happy as that merchant that found the pearl of
- "Jew by birth".
Host’ Q: "What does it mean for you to
be a Jew? Is it only by birth or it carries a deeper meaning
for you personally?"
is not an easy question. To answer it we have to go back to
that county where I was born and lived, which was my motherland.
Living in the
I was not aware of who I am and why do I live.
I didn’t know anything about my roots. I lived just as
others, not giving it much thought.
All I knew is that I was a Jew.
But this was until the moment when I came to our blessed
I moved to the place where there was a
large community of orthodox Jews.
They invited us as Jews, so that we would get to know the
culture and identify ourselves as Jews.
I visited, and even though I didn’t feel much, I began to
realize myself as a part of a great nation.
I began to understand that God exists and He is real.
There came a feeling of pride
that I belong to a nation of God.
My visits ended there.
Time passed and I saw an ad in the newspaper, calling to get
to know the Messiah of Israel. I came and was immersed into this
wonderful atmosphere. I understood that the story which is written
in the New Testament is the truth.
I compared what I know from the Old Testament with what I got
to know from the New. I
understood that these are inseparable books The Lord touched me in
the most amazing way. When they asked in church who wants to get baptized in water I
raised my hand without doubt.
I am not only a Jew, but as a Jew I became a part of God’s
The broadcaster is joking about announcing a contest
on this show for the most charming and beautiful Jewish lady.
Vita Rimsky – "Jew by birth".
I came to God not realizing
myself as a Jew in the measure I needed.
I was never interested in Judaism because in
Soviet Union there were not many opportunities for it.
When I was looking for the meaning of life I studied eastern
religions and occult. But when I opened the Bible, it quickly became the favorite book on
the shelf. I began to be interested in Judaism.
I came to Rabbi and asked whether I should be baptized.
His answer was: “Why, you are Jewish.” I felt that I was a
Jew when the threats of anti-Semitism were looming. But all of it
didn’t draw me closer to the Lord. It was strange to me, but the
name of Jesus brought a deep stirring to my heart and tears to my
eyes. God touched me in
the most amazing way. My
turning to Jesus took place.
I ran to Him as to the ‘pure source of Truth’ because He
said: “I am the truth and the way, and life and no one comes to the
Father but through
“ In the beginning I felt a bit uneasy, a Christian among the Jews.
But it was real.
I began to realize myself as a part of
God’s people. I understood
that I am in covenant. To be a Jew for me is to be a part of God’s people that are in the
eternal covenant with God
Broadcaster continues to joke about the contest for
the most charming and beautiful Jewish lady. What does it mean to be
a real Jewish lady? This probably means to be the most beautiful
woman on earth.
Sakaeva – "Jew by birth".
It is said that in the
beginning Abraham was not a Jew. To be a Jew means - "to come
from the other side”. To be a Jew is a lifestyle. It means to walk
with God, to praise God and listen to God. I never read the Bible or
Torah. Then she tells of a dream which she had while still in the
Soviet Union. She had a dream about her
grandmother that was dead a long time ago.
In the dream the grandma was embroidering the shirt and said:
“Jesus will descend soon.” I asked: “We are Jews, what does it
matter for us?” The grandma answered: “You don’t understand. He is the son of God.
I asked: "Can
I remain?" And then I saw a form of a man. He simply
smiled and said: "You are
going to have a child and when he will desire to believe in God do
not prevent him." At that time I was pregnant. This dream shook me.
I began to think about God. When I came to
America, I found my God and I found
Jesus, the Son of God, my Messiah.
Host: “But what do you think? Don’t be shy, give us a
call in the studio at the following number.”
Q: We are discussing a very
interesting theme. How does it relate to Christianity, especially at
this uncertain time, when the threat of anti-Semitism grows?
In our studio – Pastor of a
Russian speaking church, Yuri Popov.
A: Yes, it is true, the
anti-Semitism grows and not all the Christians want to identify
themselves with the Jews. Pastor makes an example from his own
meeting with a rabbi, who said that there is a ‘Jewish soul’ in
every human being, but in a Jew it is in a greater measure. I hold
the position taken by Apostle Paul, who wrote the Letter to Romans.
Even then, in
Rome there were some anti Jewish moods.
Apostle Paul said that the adoption and glory and laws and service
to God and all promises belong to Jews, which are inherited by
Christians. That is why we need to be thankful to the Jews. We live
in uncertain times. Today the church has to support
Israel, stand for
We have to raise our voice and support Jews on every level.
We have to be together with the Jewish nation, with
Then Pastor tells about the
sources of anti Semitism.
He says that from Shem were born not only Jews but also Arabs
and other nations. The word itself “anti-Semitism” is not entirely
exact. God chose one
nation and revealed Himself to it in order that this nation would
teach all the other nations of the earth how to worship God.
He gives examples, excerpts
How come anti-Semitism
exists for thousands of years, but Jews became stronger and
stronger? This is a question for which many don’t find answer.
Why Jews? What is the explanation for it? There were so many
attempts to destroy Jewish nation.
Pastor’s personal testimony:
He comes from a family of
believers. His father,
Soviet Union always said:
“Jews are God’s nation and we have to bless them.” This is all that
my father knew. Today
is the epicenter of world’s attention. A tiny strip of land. We have
to pray for Jewish nation, pray for this small piece of land.
Behind all the animosity toward the Jews there is an activity
of Satan. It is written in the Bible that at the last times God will
will be victorious. When
this happens the enemy will be defeated.
We believe that Jesus came from the Jewish nation.
We believe in the plan of God for this nation.
Pastor cites the Scriptures about the last times.
PHONE CALL comes into studio:
this broadcast for the first time. Q.:
Where does it say that Jesus
was a Jew?
Answer by pastor:
Where you can read this. You
can take prophet Isaiah and the Gospel of Mathew.
Compare the genealogies which will bring you to Jesus.
This is a historic fact. Even many Jewish rabbis say that
Jesus is a Jewish teacher and we should be proud of Him.
Host: Lets summarize everything that has been said. Is Christian a Jew by
Pastor answers by words
from the Scriptures. We, as Christians received promises from
Jesus Christ. Praying
for Jews and
Israel we are
approaching the coming of Christ.
Host thanks everyone for the
participation in this program, makes advertisements about Slavic
Christian churches and Christian meetings in NY, NJ and PA.
"Beth Shalom Radio"
Total running time: 56 min 49 sec.
Theme: "Spiritual Diplomacy."
In the beginning there is a
short story about a trip to
for the Festival of Slavic Christian Song and a promise that soon we
will hear the full report about the event.
We want to offer to you a talk show with
the President of the Foundation of “ Spiritual Diplomacy” Dr.
The Foundation carries the name of the concept of “Spiritual
Diplomacy.” This is a new international spiritually-political
concept, which is supported by UN and a part of US Congress. This
concept makes its aim to stop the world conflicts with the help of
spiritual values of the conflicting sides. For example: a conflict
between Muslims and Christians, Arabs and Jews. Spiritual Diplomacy
takes the most important values from the spiritual ideology of
conflicting sides and with their help attempts to bring conflict to
a halt. With these principles
we undertook a series of meetings primarily in
Chechnya. We meet with the leaders
of countries and leaders of oppositions. If we change the heart and
position of a leader then the situation in the country has a chance
to change. Unfortunately
it does not happen every time. Money and politics succeed more then
the spiritual values. But we have one very important argument.
years ago one individual without soldiers, tanks or finances
overcame the world, overcame the world with love. It was Jesus Christ.
And we do not do anything new, we just try
to do what He did. This is our main idea.
MM: I am very happy to be
Host: You Foundation was
formed a while ago. What exactly do you do?
Host’ Q.: How does your foundation function? Most
likely you go where they need the help of "Spiritual Diplomacy" the
Yes, we go to places where people need and are interested in our
gives examples of their work in Chechnya, Israel, Palestine and
Haiti. He tells of representatives of the foundation in different
countries. "We try to widen the sphere of our activity. Our aim is
not only to stop the conflicts between countries but to stop
conflicts inside of the person, which is very important. If we will
be able to stop conflicts within many people, then the conflicts
will stop in the world.
M.M.: Well, for example the conflict of a man with himself. We want to
show that every person is God’s creation.
The same creation as for example president of the
US or president of
Russia, or the rich and famous
people. In the eyes of
God we all have the same value. When the person realizes it, he/she
can overcome self. The person will become victorious over self and
any situation in life. Different situations happen in life.
The conversation continues
on how we can help people in specific situations. If the person
understands that he/she is connected with the Creator, their
strength triples and he/she understands that the life is not over.
with Creator" – is it from a Christian point of view? What do you mean it?
M.M.: There cannot be many Creators.
He is One. There is the only God and
Creator for all nations. When I speak of a Creator I mean the
Creator of which is written in Torah, Bible. Koran actually also
mentions God and Christ...It is important to have the right approach
to a representative of any religion. In this way we can help to find
a common ground and communication between Jews and Arabs. The Lord
gave a soul to every person as an instrument through which the
person can be heard. We help people to use this instrument
give us some examples of your work in this direction, such as
M.M.: Gives different examples
- We often visit Israel.
We keep friendship with sports clubs of
Israel. We asked the Israeli
basketball team to recruit some basketball players who are
Palestinians. They agreed. The similar actions could help to further
shorten the distance between Israelis and Palestinians. We cannot
make the love one another, but they should learn to tolerate one
another in this life. The main Christian tenet is patience and humility
gave an example when he helped to rescue an American priest from the
pit in Chechnya captivity. He was released.
I hope that after our
conversation your program can keep the people which are within your
radio signal from crime, ethnic and religious animosity. I hope that
together with you we will continue to restore this spiritual
connection on air.
Host: I also hope
that after our show we will also acquire this term of spiritual
this is what we do in our programs.
To close there is an
announcement of the future broadcast and addresses of the churches
in NY , NJ and PA.
"Beth Shalom Radio"
Total running time: 56 min 04 sec.
Assistant: Olga Griffin
A report of meetings with the listeners of our program, meetings with
pastors of churches that support us. “Friendship between churches,
friendship between the Jews and Christians, friendship between all
In the beginning: an ad about the times for the
program, frequency, address, phone # done in the humorous way. An
announcement of meeting with the listeners at Slavic Festival in
Interview with Vasiliy
Siredich - Pastor of
Russian Evangelical church in
who visited our studio in NY.
V.S.: tells us how he
listens to our broadcasts. He speaks shortly about his church.
Host: Your church helps
our radio ministry. In fact even when we were not yet on air, this
was the first church that believed in our ministry and blessed us.
Pastor Vasiliy, is it true that you immigrated with the Israeli visa
and that you are one of the descendants of the 12 tribes of
V.S.: Yes, this is true.
We moved to the
in 1989 with the Israeli visa and at any point we can become the
Host: How does your
church relate to God’s chosen people? What work do you do?
V.S.: tells that his
church supports Jewish people and
Israel. At these times many turn to Christianity.
Host: How can we
cooperate on the radio?
V.S.: Radio is one of the
most important media tools. We will continue to financially support
and help you.
Host: Any wishes to our
V.S.: This is a
chosen nation, blessed of the Lord. Because of this nation we got to
know our Lord and Savior. Our prayer and our desire is that this
nation together with us would kneel down and wait for the appearance
of our Lord Jesus Christ. Seek the Lord and You will find Him.
Just as we have.
Christian hymn in Russian: "Amazing Grace"
Host: We are visiting the
church of “New Life” in
PA. Pastor Nikolay Novik.
Pastor N: We are so happy
to see you, welcome to our service!
Host: Tell us a little
about yourself. How did you get to
Pastor N shortly gives him
Host: Was it difficult
for you to gather such a multitude of people in your church here, in
Pastor N: I didn’t
do it, the Lord did. People are hungry for the Lord, they rush to go
to church. In our church people of different nationalities serve the
Host: In your area there are many
Russian churches. Why your church has such a popularity?
Pastor N: We gather at the synagogue
building. We are very happy that there were Jewish meetings here
prior to us. We respect the Jews and love them. We count them for
elder brothers because in the Bible it says that the salvation is
from the Jews. In this temple the name of God was always praised and
continues to be praised. This attracts people.
Host: What do you
like and what you do not like in our programs?
We are supporting this program. We are praying for an
abundant blessings of God upon you. It is so needed for all of us
living here, like a breath of fresh air in the heat! You are doing a
big important job and we are so thankful to you.
Host: This is not a
secret that one of the aims of our programs is to unite all Slavic
churches in one project. So that all the churches could be friends
at least within the boarders of this project. What would you like to
wish for other pastors and visitors of their churches in our
In the Scriptures it says: You are strong in unity. We
together have to present and declare spiritual values.
Host: Your wishes for
our listeners as we close.
Pastor N: Listen to this broadcast with
utmost attention! If you have questions – call us. We with joy will
answer every phone call! I want to say that many listeners are
calling already and I am so thankful for their sincere advice and
We continue the program doing an interview with a Jew that came to
meet us in church but didn’t want to enter in. He asked for us to
speak with him in the church office. His name is Greg Nulman, he is
a producer of Jewish theater in
He said that always listens
to our program, every Friday when he comes from work. For him our
attitude to Jews, Jewish culture and
was a big revelation! He read a lot about the history of religion,
but this relation of Christian to Jews was an eye opener. “Where
were you before?” He said that he is very happy that there is a so
many Christians who want to build a closer relationship between Jews
and Christians. He came to see us, fellowship and make friends. He
never in his life was to church and wanted to see what it is.
It’s amazing that many don’t even know that Jesus was a Jew
according to the flesh. He wanted to ask help from our program in
cooperation with their theater “Let’s be friends and work together!”
The program continues with the sermon by Pastor
Sergei Sosedkin: “Back to
Who is the most prominent
giver and philanthropist of our day? The sermon is about a poor
widow and her giving from the Gospel of Mark 12:41. She did the
biggest offering. The sacrifice of this widow teaches us not only
the financial giving for the
God, but more then that it teaches us a
sacrificial love towards God. We are speaking here not only about
our soul, but also about time, strength, talents and of course
finances. Lord, help us to bring our offering into the
The sermon ends the program and broadcaster is
exhorting the listeners to help the radio ministry which is so
needed by us all!
in Russian: "Give us strength, Lord to stand!"